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Questions sur les sièges

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Questions sur les sièges

Messagepar gordien » Sam 7 Fév 2015 09:41

Bonjour

Après une partie hier soir, j'ai quelques petites interrogations sur les sièges :

Un joueur A déclare un siège. Son seigneur se fait tuer par la carte assassinat. Le siège est-il toujours maintenu ?
Je pense que non, vu que les troupes doivent être menées par un seigneur pour attaquer.

A la phase de déplacement suivante le joueur A amène un autre seigneur sur les troupes restantes (qui entre temps n'ont pas été attaquées).
Il déclare à nouveau un siège.
Question : le combat est-il entrepris immédiatement ou bien au tour d'après ?
Je penche pour la seconde solution, dans la mesure ou les sièges sont déclarés après les combats.

Merci de vous confirmations ou infirmations et précision.

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Re: Questions sur les sièges

Messagepar Pikaraph » Sam 7 Fév 2015 10:06

Un siège est immédiatement levé s'il n'y a plus de Seigneur de la famille qui assiège sur le village assiégé.

Ensuite si tu ramènes un autre Seigneur, tu as la phase Combats qui commence, tu peux déclencher 1 Bataille si tu as envie, mais sans engin de siège, ensuite après avoir géré toutes tes éventuelles Batailles, tu peux poser des engins de siège. Donc concrètement, ton seigneur peut bastonner, mais il n'aura pas d'engins de siège pour l'aider à ce tour, il faudra attendre le tour suivant.

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Re: Questions sur les sièges

Messagepar gordien » Sam 7 Fév 2015 10:11

Merci !!

J'avais pas tout à fait compris comme ça : pour moi un combat devant une cité/chateau était forcément un siège, et que par conséquent il n'y avait pas de combat "normal" avant.

Dans les faits, ça n'a rien changé au cours de la partie, mais c'est bon à savoir pour les prochaines.

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Re: Questions sur les sièges

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Re: Questions sur les sièges

Messagepar Tontione » Sam 7 Fév 2015 13:53

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Re: Questions sur les sièges

Messagepar lancelot » Lun 9 Fév 2015 09:53

Est-il possible pour l'assiégé de renforcer sa position en ajoutant de nouvelles troupes en défense dans la cité assiégée lors de la phase d'achat ?
Il semblerait que ce soit possible, pourtant n'est-ce pas contradictoire avec le principe du siège qui consiste à isoler l'assiégé ?

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Re: Questions sur les sièges

Messagepar Tontione » Lun 9 Fév 2015 10:00

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Re: Questions sur les sièges

Messagepar Gunzilla » Jeu 12 Fév 2015 21:56

Je n'ai pas trouvé dans les règles le paragraphe stipulant que dès qu'un seigneur assiégeant meurt, le siège est levé et les pions engins de siège retirés du plateau.

D'ailleurs, on dirait même que l'on peut déclarer un siège si on a des troupes sans seigneur sur la case:
"Une fois toutes ses batailles résolues, un joueur peut déclarer un siège dans chaque village où il a des troupes, si ce village est contrôlé par un autre joueur et qu’il y a un château ou une cité fortifiée."

D'un autre côté, il est stipulé plus bas que: '6.4: Effets d'un siège: L’assiégeant peut poser de nouvelles troupes dans ce village."
Il semblerait donc qu'on puisse recruter des troupes sur une case sans seigneur. Est-ce une exception? ou avez vous oublié de mentionner qu'il faut obligatoirement un seigneur pour déclarer un siège, et donc pour recruter des troupes sur place?
Du coup, si le Seigneur meurt (assassin, peste) ou doit partir en croisade (templier/teutonique): le siège est il immédiatement considéré comme levé?

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Re: Questions sur les sièges

Messagepar Pikaraph » Jeu 12 Fév 2015 22:49


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Re: Questions sur les sièges

Messagepar Gunzilla » Ven 13 Fév 2015 13:27

Ce n'est écrit explicitement nulle part dans les règles, mais c'est ce qui me semble le plus logique oui.

Merci!


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