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Alliance en attaque

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Alliance en attaque

Messagepar Pikaraph » Lun 23 Mars 2015 11:19

Les joueurs souhaitant s'allier pour attaquer un autre joueur lors de la phase de batailles doivent-ils tous disposer d'au moins 1 seigneur respectivement pour participer à la bataille ? Ou est-ce-que le seigneur du joueur actif peut conduire les troupes de ses alliés sans qu'ils aient besoin d'avoir au moins 1 seigneur ?
Si les alliés ont besoin d'avoir au moins 1 seigneur pour s'allier en attaque, que se passe-t-il si leur seigneur est tué alors qu'ils ont encore des troupes dans la bataille ?

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Re: Alliance en attaque

Messagepar Sdric » Lun 23 Mars 2015 14:55

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/17381985#17381985

D’après Tontione, on ne peut ni s'engager, ni continuer à combattre au sein d'une alliance sans Noble.

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Re: Alliance en attaque

Messagepar Pikaraph » Lun 23 Mars 2015 16:27

Merci beaucoup, j'avais lu ce post il y a quelque temps quand tu l'avais déjà cité, mais la première ligne ne m'avait pas du tout attiré l’œil ^^
Bon, comme ça c'est bien clair.

Et en défense : peut-on s'allier au défenseur si on n'a pas de seigneur ? Là ça me met le doute...

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Re: Alliance en attaque

Messagepar Sdric » Lun 23 Mars 2015 19:40

Option 1 :
Il faut un Noble pour joindre une alliance défensive
Le problème :
a) Le contrôleur du village a donc besoin de Noble pur faire rentrer des renforts alliés dans ses fortifications.
b) Une armée en territoire ennemi sans Noble (assassiné/embusqué...) est coincée et tout le monde peut l'ignorer (d’où la suggestion de P. Mouchebeuf de la dérouter).

Option 2 :
Il faut un Noble pour joindre une alliance défensive à l'exception du contrôleur du village (qui défend son bien)
Le problème :
Ne retire pas le problème (b)


Option 3 :
Non il n'est pas nécessaire d'avoir un Noble pour joindre une alliance défensive.
Le problème :
L'embuscade n'a plus aucun effet sur une alliance en défense.

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Re: Alliance en attaque

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Re: Alliance en attaque

Messagepar mferry » Mar 24 Mars 2015 18:15

oui

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Re: Alliance en attaque

Messagepar Sdric » Mar 24 Mars 2015 20:24

D’après P. Mouchebeuf, on déroute l'armée adverse même si elle est en défense en faisant un embuscade sur le seigneur (seul) commandant les troupes. Ça plaide en faveur de la nécessité d'avoir un Noble pour joindre une alliance défensive.


Remarque comme on peut céder le contrôle d'un village à n'importe quel moment, l'option 2 et 3 se ressemble si les alliés qui défendent contrôle le village.

J'aime bien l'option de dérouter volontairement ces troupes en territoire ennemi, mais je ne l'autoriserai qu'à la fin de ses batailles (en même temps que l'établissement des sièges)
Si on peut dérouter quand on veut on pourrait ''téléporter'' ses troupes à la phase d'achat.

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Re: Alliance en attaque

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