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Mauvais temps et souterrain teutonique

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mferry
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Mauvais temps et souterrain teutonique

Messagepar mferry » Sam 14 Fév 2015 19:40

Quand un seigneur veut faire passer des troupes par un souterrain teutonique, si une des fortifications teutoniques de départ ou d'arrivée est en zone de mauvais temps, les troupes qui sont dans la fortification de départ peuvent-elles emprunter le souterrain teutonique sans mettre de carte Souterrain ?

Même question si le souterrain teutonique traverse une zone de mauvais temps. Il n'y a pas quelques infiltrations qui rendent le souterrain impraticable ?

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Re: Mauvais temps et souterrain teutonique

Messagepar Gunzilla » Sam 14 Fév 2015 20:36

Malheureusement oui (c'est vrai que c'est fort!), que ce soit pour le départ, l'arrivée, ou les villages traversés.

Page 8 des règles 2015: "Les mouvements par souterrain ne sont pas affectés par le mauvais temps."

D'ailleurs, je viens de remarquer que si on joue un souterrain pour attaquer un château ou une cité, la bataille est possible même par mauvais temps. En fait tous les usages de carte souterrain sont possibles par mauvais temps. Donc jamais d'infiltrations (même en passant sous la rivière) :D

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Re: Mauvais temps et souterrain teutonique

Messagepar mferry » Sam 14 Fév 2015 21:31

Donc tu dis que le § 2.3.1 de la page 8 de la règle de base s'applique aussi au souterrain teutonique du § CT3.1.3.
Mais est-ce bien l'intention de l'auteur ? Ou bien est-ce une ambigüité de la règle qui doit être précisée ?

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Re: Mauvais temps et souterrain teutonique

Messagepar Gunzilla » Sam 14 Fév 2015 21:39

Le souterrain Teutonique est un souterrain de meilleure qualité que les cartes souterrain.
Il ne peut donc pas avoir des effets moins bons qu'un souterrain "normal".
Moi c'est comme ça que je le vois.

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Re: Mauvais temps et souterrain teutonique

Messagepar Pikaraph » Sam 14 Fév 2015 22:59


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Re: Mauvais temps et souterrain teutonique

Messagepar Maximilien » Jeu 19 Fév 2015 16:15

Un souterrain teutonique permet de se déplacer malgré le mauvais temps.
Par contre, il ne permet pas de combattre ! Ni la carte événement Souterrain d'ailleurs !

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Re: Mauvais temps et souterrain teutonique

Messagepar Pikaraph » Jeu 19 Fév 2015 16:21

Ok, donc on peut raisonnablement dire que le souterrain teutonique a le même effet que la carte Souterrain lors de la phase Déplacements et uniquement cet effet.

Et oui, on est d'accord que le souterrain le déclenche pas de Bataille quand on arrive dans une fortification teutonique contrôlée par un autre joueur puisque c'est à l'étape Déplacements qu'on utilise les souterrains teutoniques.


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