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Véhicules.

Messagepar Vidocq62 » Ven 17 Fév 2017 10:29

Nous avons une question sur les véhicules.

Tous les véhicules ont une PF bleue mais certains ont des ND de couleur différente : ND de front en bleu et ND de flanc en rouge (ex : Pak 40 ).

Si un char tire de flanc sur un de ces véhicules, doit-il utiliser sa PF rouge contre la ND rouge ?

Si je reprends l'exemple du Pak40, il a 13 en ND de front bleu et 10 en ND de flanc rouge. Il serait donc avantagé s'il est attaqué de flanc par un char ?

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Messagepar Gaerin » Ven 17 Fév 2017 11:43

Hello Vidocq, je connais ton appétence récente pour Guadalcanal mais ne peux parler ici que de RdO.

J'ai fait le tour des chars Russes, en l'occurrence. Aucun n'a d'écart de PF rouge/bleu supérieur à 3. Au mieux pour le PaK40, il y a donc égalité de flanc ou de front face aux chars Russes les plus lourds en général. Pour les chars plus légers, l'écart est de 2. Je crois que les concepteurs avaient pensé à modéliser la protection avant des canons face aux chars et que la naissance des PF et ND bleus et rouges vient en partie de là, ils auraient donc été équilibrés en conséquence si ma mémoire est bonne.

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Re: Véhicules.

Messagepar Tontione » Ven 17 Fév 2017 11:58

Yep, et dans la dernière version ça a été modifié, plus de ND bicolorespour les canons,ils ont des MD rouges.

Pour rappel, la règle de la dernière édition :
http://www.asyncron.fr/wordpress/wp-con ... 5_vWeb.pdf

On trouve le listing des pions à la fin.

Pour les véhicules, il y a juste le ZiS-30 qui a un blindage de front seulement, ce qui correspond à la réalité.

Effectivement, ça peut créer des cas bizarres ou un blindé sera plus efficace en l'attaquant de front.
Dans ce cas je suggère d'utiliser la PF bleue du blindé quand même.

Autre cas particuliers connexe , les véhicules "open top" (toit découvert), qui ont un ND de flanc entouré d'un liseret rouge.
Ces véhicules n'ont pas de blindage contre les tirs d'artillerie / mortiers / surplomb ni les attaques en CC.
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Messagepar Vidocq62 » Ven 17 Fév 2017 13:31


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Re: Véhicules.

Messagepar Vidocq62 » Ven 17 Fév 2017 13:39

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Pour les véhicules, il y a juste le ZiS-30 qui a un blindage de front seulement, ce qui correspond à la réalité.

Effectivement, ça peut créer des cas bizarres ou un blindé sera plus efficace en l'attaquant de front.
Dans ce cas je suggère d'utiliser la PF bleue du blindé quand même.


Bonjour,

Merci pour la réponse !

En fait l'exemple de la pak 40 vient de l'extension "Monster Tanks" ! j'ai rangé les pions avec ceux du RDO... D'ailleurs en plus du Zis 30 du côté russe, s'ajoutent les demag d7 et Pak 36 du côté allemand qui ont aussi des ND de flanc de couleur rouge... Voire aussi les camions et les chariots qui ont des ND rouges de front et de flanc...

Même remarque aussi pour le panzerchreck de l'extension "Monster Tanks" qui a une PF rouge négative s'il attaque un blindé de flanc et une PF bleue de 11 s'il attaque le même blindé de front...

Nous suivrons donc le conseil d'utiliser la PF bleue dans ces cas particuliers.


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