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Re: Action de groupe.

Messagepar Vidocq62 » Mer 15 Fév 2017 12:14

Merci pour ces précisions. Nous avons donc bien joué ! Bien que nous avons hésité un moment avec la "variante" de Maximilien...

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Re: Action de groupe.

Messagepar Tontione » Mer 15 Fév 2017 12:56

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Re: Action de groupe.

Messagepar Papydan88 » Mer 14 Fév 2018 15:21

bonjour tout le monde
j'ai aussi une question qui concerne le tir de groupe.
J'ai acheté le jeu fin d'année dernière (he oui je découvre et ca y est je suis mordu du jeu) dans la boite se trouvaient les règles édition 2016, important car le paragraphe 9.1.2 est différent de la version 2015.
dans l'édition 2015 on trouve "Les unités de soutien doivent être dans le même hex ou un hex adjacent au chef de tir, avoir la cible dans leur angle de tir (y compris les unités avec tourelle), une LdV dégagée sur la cible, être à portée (et pas à longue portée), et ne pas avoir de marqueur Dégâts qui affecte leur PF"
dans l'édition 2016 on lit maintenant "Les unités de soutien doivent être dans le même hex ou un hex adjacent au chef de tir, avoir la cible dans leur angle de tir (y compris les unités avec tourelle), une LdV dégagée sur la cible, être à portée, et ne pas avoir de marqueur Dégâts qui affecte leur PF

les unités de soutien peuvent-elles ou pas participer si elles sont à longue portée?
Mon ami avait les règles 2016 et moi celles de 2015, nous n'étions pas d'accord mais normal puisque différentes. Oups. on s'est mis d'accord sur les plus récentes mais je vois que Tontione donne un lien sur l'édition 2015. Alors je m'adresse aux experts pour savoir laquelle utiliser
merci d'avance pour votre réponse
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Re: Action de groupe.

Messagepar Tontione » Mer 14 Fév 2018 15:29

Ca m'étonne, pour moi, de mémoire, c'est une précision qui avait été apportée après coup, donc la version "pas à longue portée" devrait être plus récente.
En tout cas c'est celle que j'ai en tête, et ça correspond à la v25 anglaise que j'ai sous les yeux, et qui doit être la plus récente.
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Re: Action de groupe.

Messagepar Papydan88 » Jeu 15 Fév 2018 09:05

bonjour
c'est un peu étrange en effet, je joins des scans de mon livret de règles mais j'en conclus que votre version est la plus récente donc pas de tir de groupe si longue portée pour les unités de soutien.
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MINES:
J'en profite pour poser une question concernant les mines. Une unité rentre dans l'hex avec mine, il subit donc le tir. Supposons que le tir rate ou immobilise l'unité et qu'il reste dans l'hex ensuite, subit-il à nouveau un tir quand c'est son tour de jouer?
Dans le scénario 9 : KV2, je décide de mettre la mine cachée sur l'hex du point de contrôle qui est aussi l'emplacement du KV2, le KV2 subit-il un tir de la part de s mines?

cordialement

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Messagepar Tontione » Jeu 15 Fév 2018 09:54

"avoir la cible dans leur ZdT (6.2)".
=> Zone de Tir = hex dans l'arc de tir (orientation), la ligne de vue, et à portée , avec portée (7.7) = chiffre indiquée sur le pion = portée normale.

donc pas de longue portée.
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Messagepar Tontione » Jeu 15 Fév 2018 09:59

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Re: Action de groupe.

Messagepar Papydan88 » Jeu 15 Fév 2018 10:19

merci pour ces explications
J'apprends aussi à lire les règles en faisant un lien entre tous les paragraphes comme vous le démontrez
désolé du dérangement mais mon ami fait toujours des études de texte en arrangeant à sa façon ce qu'il veut comprendre

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