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[CoH- RdO-Solo] Cartes IA

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[CoH- RdO-Solo] Cartes IA

Messagepar Pikaraph » Mer 10 Fév 2016 21:29

J'ai quelques questions au sujet de certaines cartes :

- Cartes 7 et 8, ordre prioritaire de Courte Portée : ces 2 Ordres sont-ils réellement différents ? Je ne saisis pas la nuance...

carte 7 : Pivote et/ou tire ou se rallie
carte 8 : Pivote et tire ou se rallie (-->si l'unité est déjà face à sa cible, aucune raison de la pivoter)

- Cartes 35 et 36, progression du Chrono : Si IA + unités ≤ 24 : +1T sur l'une et Si IA + unités ≤ 16 : +2T
Quel est l'intérêt de valeurs aussi élevées ? Il y a peu de missions réunissant autant d'unités.

- Carte 6, Ordre tactique 3 : IA dans 1 hex avec MD=0 et la +Près d'1 unité ou d'1 OM : fait 1 mouvement le - risqué vers un couvert
D'autres cartes stipule "vers le couvert le +Près de la cible", y a-t-il bien une différence ou est-ce une typo ?

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Messagepar Pikaraph » Jeu 11 Fév 2016 10:58

Pour le moment j'ai repris les 26 premières cartes, j'ai regardé la formulation des Ordres.

Du coup, je pose ces questions parce qu'il y a 1 seule carte qui dit "fait 1 mouvement le - risqué vers un couvert", c'est surprenant de ne voir revenir cette tournure qu'1 fois, même chose pour les chiffres 16 et 24... et comme il y a eu des erreurs sur d'autres cartes, j'ai un doute.

Cartes 07 et 32 à accorder : Ordre CC "Si touchée : se désengage, sinon tire"
Cartes 03 et 36 à accorder : Groupe avec ou groupe comprenant

Pour le reste, il est possible d'améliorer la formulation à certains endroits :
- créer un acronyme pour Objectif de mission (OM ou OdM par exemple), ça fera gagner de la place
- "qui vient juste d'agir" : à remplacer "qui vient d'agir", le "juste" n'a aucune influence sur la compréhension puisqu'il n'y a pas d'ambiguïté
- respecter la formulation de chaque Ordre, par exemple "unité fraîche la +machin" au lieu d'avoir parfois "unité machin et fraîche" puisque tout est vérifié, pas de notion d 'ordre --> il y a des "et à virer ici et là parce qu'ils n'apportent rien au sens de l'Ordre.
(exemple carte 5 : IA avec la ++PF et fraîche la +Près d'1 Objectif de mission : est marquée 'utilisée' --> IA fraîche avec la ++PF, c'est plus propre)
- on peut même pousser le vice en réduisant 'IA avec la ++PF' en 'IA ++PF' puisque ça décrit l'IA (après c'est moins français, plus mathématique)
- pourquoi ne pas suivre le style '++PF' pour utiliser '--VD' au lieu de '+Faible VD', ce serait plus logique

A terme, il serait judicieux de mettre un fond de couleur particulier pour les ordres qui sont expressément du tir, du mouvement, etc. ça accélère la lecture et ça permet de zapper un ordre sans avoir à le lire juste en voyant sa couleur.

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Messagepar Eternam » Jeu 11 Fév 2016 22:35

J'ai l'impression que notre ami demande une nouvelle version ?
C'est vrai que tes remarques sont justes, mais à savoir si le jeu sera un jour refait avec moins "d'erreurs " (quelques erreurs, mais surtout des maladresses d'écriture ou de sémantique) et qui de plus pour ceux qui sont les plus tatillons, quelques différences mineures entre les régles anglaise et française.
Pour l'instant le je me plait toujours....et s'il y a une suite voire une autre période de jeu, je prendrais

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Messagepar Pikaraph » Jeu 11 Fév 2016 22:40

Le module est excellent, c'est agréable à jouer une fois qu'on a bien saisi le fonctionnement. J'espère fortement que les prochaines périodes auront droit au même concept !
J'ai également lu que le mécanisme du test d'utilisation va donner lieu à un module pour le jeu à 2, sous une forme un peu remaniée.

Je propose des améliorations pour un futur retirage (a priori le jeu est déjà épuisé !), ce serait l'occasion de peaufiner cette extension.

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Messagepar Eternam » Ven 19 Fév 2016 23:42

Je crois que le retirage arrive en juin....
Je ne sais pas si les "erreurs" ou omissions ont été corrigées sur ce retirage...

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Messagepar Tontione » Sam 20 Fév 2016 22:41

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