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Close combat contre unités transportées

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Messagepar perekastor » Jeu 12 Sep 2013 07:19

Je pense que la règle du CC qui limite l'attaque à une seule unité ne s'applique pas dans pour le transport d'unités.
Extrait de la règle : "Les tirs sont résolus simultanément contre le véhicule et le ND de flanc de la ou des unités transportées."

1 HEX équivaut à 40 - 50 mètre de terrain (Chapitre 4.0). Dans une situation de CC, on peut imaginer que deux unités alliées (non transportées) sont éloignées de plusieurs mètres ; une unité ennemie dans le même HEX ne peut donc attaquer qu'une cible. (les angles de tirs pouvant être très larges toutes les cibles ne peuvent se retrouver en ligne de mire)
Dans le cas d'une situation de transport les deux unités sont littéralement "au même endroit" au sein de l'HEX.

Pour le parallèle, dans le cas de deux unités (non transportée) subissant une attaque à distance, chaque unité subit un jet d'attaque pour simuler la densité des unités dans l'HEX. (et sans doute pour représenter un angle de tir plus étroit qui permet d'avoir toutes les cibles en ligne de mire...)

En fait, pour les situation de CC il faudrait une granularité plus fine pour définir ce qu'il se passe dans 1 HEX :)
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Messagepar Tontione » Jeu 12 Sep 2013 08:03

Amusant, j'ai posé la question sur BGG, on m'a répondu que la question avait déjà été posée en me donnant le lien.
Et effectivement c'est le cas : la question a été posé en 2010 par ... moi-même !!! :lol:



Bon, ma seule excuse c'est que ça fait 3 ans !

Donc effectivement, on attaque les deux unités, même au CC, contrairement à ce que j'avançais.
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Messagepar gascon » Jeu 12 Sep 2013 08:47

Ah elle est pas mal celle là en effet.
Bon Tontione on en reparle dans 3 ans alors :P

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Messagepar Tontione » Jeu 12 Sep 2013 09:39

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Messagepar Ney 84 » Jeu 12 Sep 2013 09:52

Bon alors on va faire comme ça. Mais cela mériterait d'être noté comme une exception dans la règle des CC.
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Messagepar Tontione » Jeu 12 Sep 2013 10:15

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Messagepar Tontione » Mer 18 Sep 2013 14:30

La question a continué à faire débat depuis mon dernier message.

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En gros, il confirme bien que l'idée de cette exception qui dit qu'une seule unité à la fois peut être attaquée en CC est d'éviter qu'une unité débordée numériquement ne puisse éliminer tous ses ennemis sur un coup de chance. Donc pas de raison de l'appliquer au cas particulier des unités transportées.
Par extrapolation, c'est aussi valable pour les autres cas particuliers : cavalerie, fortifications.
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Messagepar Ney 84 » Mer 18 Sep 2013 17:14

OK, merci, on y voit plus clair.


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